[noodles]

the idea of banning KR over stupid shit like this is asinine, but it is only a week so I will not demand anything

KR is freaking out though~

[Kaizer Xi!]

KR's rebuttal:

Me: Toki's answered my inquiry, if you haven't noticed
Armon Brooks: I haven't.
Armon Brooks: it's sarcastic though, I can imagine.
Me: no
Armon Brooks: has something to do with PED.
Armon Brooks: and the one post.
Me: go look at it
Armon Brooks: I can't, I'm banned
Me: ah
Me: right
Me: 'It's probably for using his power incorrectly and harassment of PED. Biased modding is never a good idea. When making a mod decision, you should always ask yourself, "Is this really needed, or am I just speaking out of anger and/or a bias I may harbor towards this user?"
Armon Brooks: let me find a good way to explain this
Armon Brooks: You've got two kids in the back of a car arguing.
Armon Brooks: You're getting annoyed and yell at them to stop.
Armon Brooks: They stay silent for 15 seconds, then one makes some point about the other.
Armon Brooks: Bu that time
Armon Brooks: you don't care about how legitimate the point is.
Armon Brooks: You want the argument to end.
Armon Brooks: by that time*
Armon Brooks: This has happened to me tons of times as a kid.
Armon Brooks: So no
Armon Brooks: I did not misuse my power.
Armon Brooks: And I have not been harassing PED recently either.
Armon Brooks: That's why I made that post in the funny IMs thread POINTING THAT OUT.
Armon Brooks: I deleted PED's post not because I dislike him.
Armon Brooks: I deleted it because he was trying to sneak the last word in after the argument was supposed to be over.
Armon Brooks: AND I let him repost it!

This post has been edited by Kaizer Xi!: 15 June 2009 - 09:05 PM

[Phizz]

FINALLY

[Phizz]

ps: didn't we have a rule about posting for banned members

[Catfish]

He needs some time away from the board to chill out. It's nice outside, honestly.

[PED-52]

<Metroid62> "<KingRidley> I just want you to agree that we were not fighting, and that my decision to delete your post was not based on a bias. "
<Metroid62> <Metroid62> Ok then.

<KingRidley> PED are you on here?
<Metroid62> Yes
<Metroid62> Why do you ask?
<KingRidley> Thank you.
<KingRidley> Listen
<Metroid62> ok
<KingRidley> Have I seriously been harassing you recently?
<Metroid62> I have seen a few things like you have been nagging to me about following other people into being an atheist.
<KingRidley> that was just part of the debate.
<Metroid62> Saying I am one becasue "All the cool kids were doing it"
<Metroid62> Yeah
<KingRidley> I'm sorry if that seriously offended you.
<Metroid62> It wasn't seriously offending.
<Metroid62> It just really pissed me off.
<KingRidley> But I mean after that.
<Metroid62> Hm.
<Metroid62> Not much I guess
<KingRidley> around my non-sequitur post about how I wasn't insulting you especially<KingRidley> even in here
<KingRidley> I said to you that I only make fun of you when you're actively doing something stupid
<KingRidley> and I do that to everyone
<Metroid62> I don't follow.
<KingRidley> well nevermind that part then
<Metroid62> Ok.
<KingRidley> Just let me explain why I deleted your post:
<KingRidley> and this is a true story
<Metroid62> ok then.
<KingRidley> Me and my brother argued alot in the car
<KingRidley> where my dad can't escape it.
<KingRidley> So eventually he would tell both of us to stop, or we'd both get in trouble.
<KingRidley> aka me telling you and Pryex to stop arguing or I'll delete your posts.
<Metroid62> Stop right there.
<KingRidley> k
<Metroid62> This seems mostly like bullshit
<KingRidley> ...how
<Metroid62> Just take something in the fourms and relateing it to something that happend in real life.
<Metroid62> However
<KingRidley> well I'm doing that because it does relate.
<Metroid62> Real life does not really co-exist with the internet
<KingRidley> yeah
<KingRidley> but
<KingRidley> this is still similar.
<Metroid62> I'm still getting a big wiff of bullshit off of it.
<KingRidley> PED trust me it's not bullshit, it's an explanation.
<KingRidley> now I'm finishing it:
<KingRidley> My dad would tell us to be quiet, and we'd both stay silent for roughly 15 seconds.
<KingRidley> then one of us would say something
<KingRidley> some little comment
<KingRidley> It did not matter how relevant it was to the discussion
<KingRidley> or even if it was a good point
<KingRidley> we'd both get in trouble.
<KingRidley> Here's why:
<KingRidley> Because we didn't make the point for the benefit of the other person.
<KingRidley> We made it so that we could try to sneak the last word into the argument without getting in trouble.
<Metroid62> I see your point.
<KingRidley> Thank you for letting me say that.
<Metroid62> However, I was not arguing at that point.
<KingRidley> Neither were we.
<KingRidley> Half the time I would say something being totally sincere
<KingRidley> I'd still get yelled at.
<Metroid62> Now THAT, is some bullshit.
<KingRidley> Because the comment would always re-ignite the argument
<Metroid62> Yes
<KingRidley> Now that I've had years to think about it, it really makes sense
<Metroid62> But if its sincere
<KingRidley> because if Pryex had said something like that, you'd be mad too, right?
<Metroid62> Why would you be getting yelled at.
<KingRidley> Even if it's sincere, it still starts the fight back up.
<KingRidley> and my dad wanted to avoid the fight alltogether
<KingRidley> he didn't care how or if it ended
<Metroid62> I see.
<Metroid62> Ok
<KingRidley> So that's why I deleted your post
<KingRidley> AND
<KingRidley> after coertion by the other members, I let you say it again.
<KingRidley> and of course that's when Hermes showed up.
<Metroid62> Make sence.
<KingRidley> Now
<Metroid62> Makes.
<KingRidley> what I'm going to say now will probably give you some ammusement.
<KingRidley> and it rightly does
<KingRidley> well,
<KingRidley> semi rightly
<KingRidley> because it happened for the wrong reason.
<KingRidley> After all this, I got banned.
<Metroid62> From PJ.
<KingRidley> Yes.
<Metroid62> Today?
<KingRidley> Yes.
<Metroid62> Hmmm
<KingRidley> for a week.
<KingRidley> The message was from Catfish
<KingRidley> saying "Go outside."
<Metroid62> Seems he made a fitting comment.
<KingRidley> PED I live in Georgia.
<Metroid62> And.
<KingRidley> It's hot as hell, it's humid, and there is nothing to do outside.
<Metroid62> Well
<KingRidley> Summer in Georgia is really unbearable.
<Metroid62> It could mean like go outside the internet.
<KingRidley> but that's beside the point
<KingRidley> I do that very frequently.
<KingRidley> Catfish really does not like me.
<KingRidley> He thinks I don't have any friends, and that I am socially retarded.
<Metroid62> Now don't get me to pity for you.
<KingRidley> I'm not.
<Metroid62> Sounds like it.
<KingRidley> I have tons of friends
<KingRidley> and hang out with them all the time
<Metroid62> Nice.
<KingRidley> yes
<KingRidley> Catfish is a douche nozzle.
<KingRidley> Here's the thing:
<Metroid62> make him belive other-wise.
<KingRidley> I don't care what people think about my behavior online.
<KingRidley> I am a self-rightous dick too frequently.
<KingRidley> But like you said, the internet and the real world aren't similar very often
<Metroid62> Find the enemy of your enemy and you will find a friend.
<KingRidley> Primary difference here is that online I have problems controlling what I say because it's so easy to say it
<KingRidley> People like Catfish
<KingRidley> there is no convincing them
<Metroid62> Find some one that doesn't like catfish
<Metroid62> And make friends with them.
<KingRidley> there is nothing I can do or say to make him like me
<KingRidley> I already know a number of them
<KingRidley> me and HAL 9000 are working on this too
<KingRidley> because I don't think this was a fair ban at all.
<Metroid62> It seems to be one
<Metroid62> Because
<KingRidley> Catfish banned me because he doesn't like me, not because I did anything to you.
<Metroid62> You unrightfuly deleated a post.
<KingRidley> PED the whole point of that story was explaining why the post was deleted
<Metroid62> There was no fight going on.
<KingRidley> and pointing out the fact that I let you repost it
<Metroid62> Yes
<Metroid62> But there was no fight
<KingRidley> Catfish doesn't give a shit that I deleted your post
<KingRidley> He really doesn't like me, and just wanted an excuse.
<KingRidley> After this is all over, if you want me to, I will give a public appology for deleting your post.
<Metroid62> If he banned you due to a personal matter and not rule-wise, tell hermes and get catfish in trouble.
<KingRidley> I just want you to agree that we were not fighting, and that my decision to delete your post was not based on a bias.
<Metroid62> ok.
<KingRidley> Once I have that agreement, I will show it to Hemes
<KingRidley> Hermes*
<Metroid62> Ok then.
<KingRidley> So here's what I would like you to do:
<Metroid62> And no need for an appology.
<KingRidley> thanks.
<Metroid62> You have explained your self well enough in this query.

[Catfish]

Very good! Next week will be a new chapter in the history of PJ!

Next week.

[Toki]

KR, if being annoying was a good cause to ban someone, I would never have been able to post back in the day.

[Hermes]

I've made my opinion known to the other mods (since no one's picked up on the fact that I'm not the boss any more) but I don't have time to unban him myself.

[KingRidley]

Toki, on 16 June 2009 - 04:10 AM, said:

KR, if being annoying was a good cause to ban someone, I would never have been able to post back in the day.

Well yeah, that's why mods have to wait for some official rule breaking to happen.



Right, this whole thing was just completely ridiculous so I'll keep my little post-game speech short and quick.

I didn't think that I was doing anything wrong when I deleted PED's post because even if it was a legitimate point, the arguing was supposed to end and things like that only throw wood on the fire. When you guys spoke up I let him repost it too, so I really don't see why there was a problem.

As you can see I talked to PED and he agreed with me that we weren't fighting and that I didn't delete his post out of any bias. So again, there was no reason for a ban.

For anyone saying that it's just a week, I knew that. Had I been doing something worthy of being banned then I wouldn't have cared, but I don't think many people here would appreciate having a weeklong "Free vacation" thrown at them for no reason, especially if it's from a member who has been riding your ass for some time.

The mods have talked to me and the new rule is No modding outside of comics at all. That's fine.

[Gaiajack]

ordinarily I'd be complaining, but pj is so inactive now that nothing that happens here in terms of forum politics actually matter anymore.

[Toki]

I'm starting to think Night Red died years ago, and just set up some kind of crude script to do things once or twice a year.

[Phizz]

IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEONE GAINS CONTROL OF THE SYSTEM